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// MTV july 2003



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by Jon Wiederhorn, with reporting by MTV Europe

Sometimes it's hard to tell when Radiohead's opinionated frontman Thom Yorke is being serious and when he's — as the English say — taking the piss.

Although he's usually polite and affable in conversation, occasionally Yorke will roll his eyes if he doesn't agree with you, then mock you by saying what he thinks you want to hear. Other times he makes absurd comments to see what kind of reaction he can get. Case in point: During a recent interview in London, the shy, politically minded vegan made some pretty uncharacteristic statements when talking about the time the band spent in Los Angeles working on its new album, Hail to the Thief.

"We felt really glamorous being in Hollywood," he began with a smirk. "We went to glamorous parties, and we had matching Minis with Union Jacks. I chose the Range Rover because it was the most polluting car I could find — 4.6 liters of pure gluttony. Disgusting."

For Yorke, who has been known to change topics mid-conversation or even walk out of interviews when things aren't going well, being weird, contrary or aloof is a way to avoid having to be too analytical about his personal life and work. He'll happily discuss the state of the world, history and literature, but get too close to the emotional core and he'll retreat into a shell of sarcasm.

"I'm just enjoying the fact that I haven't been hit by a car yet and I'm still doing this," he said when asked about the benefits of stardom. "It's not easy. If you crack up, then that's it. And it's pretty easy to crack up because suddenly people start talking to you like you're from another planet and you just think that's normal. I really worry about other people like Coldplay and the Strokes, 'cause the sort of success they've had really screws with your head. It's like, what do you do next?"

For 14 years, Radiohead — Yorke, guitarist Ed O'Brien, guitarist Jonny Greenwood, his brother and bassist Colin and drummer Phil Selway — have been consumed with the question of what to do next. The need to push boundaries has tested their friendship, their musicianship and their very sanity as they've evolved from a green Britpop band into one of the most creative, provocative and perverse musical outfits.

Radiohead formed in 1988 when the bandmembers were all students at Oxford University. By 1992 when they released their debut EP, Drill, they were a young, promising act with a few decent songs. Then came the bonfire hit "Creep," a tune that blended the loud/soft dynamics of bands like Nirvana with the sentimentality of the Smiths. The song surfaced in 1993 on the group's hit-and-miss debut album, Pablo Honey, and in no time it was everywhere, catapulting Radiohead to stardom and leaving them struggling to avoid one-hit-wonder syndrome.

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They proved themselves in 1995 with The Bends, an anguished amalgam of atmospheric pop and multi-textured rock that featured the singles "Fake Plastic Trees," "Just" and the wonderfully skewed "My Iron Lung," which seesawed between melancholy drifting and disjointed clawing.

Lots of bands say they want to reinvent themselves with every release. Radiohead have actually done so. When they were praised for being a savvy band that specialized in dissonant guitar embellishments, they got softer, atmospheric and more epic with 1997's OK Computer. Then they pulled a 180 with 2000's Kid A and 2001's Amnesiac, both of which downplayed organic instrumentation and accessible melodic structure in favor of computerized music, challenging arrangements and a clinical vibe.

Now, after three discs that were labored over in the studio, the band has banged out Hail to the Thief, a record that was intentionally recorded in a mere two weeks and is composed of melancholy, sample-flecked melodies that were road-tested months before they were taken into the studio.

"The last two studio records [Kid A and Amnesiac] were a real headache," Yorke said, thumbing the stubble on his angular chin. "We had spent so much time looking at computers and grids, we were like, 'That's enough. We can't do that anymore.' This time, we used computers, but they had to actually be in the room with all the gear. So everything was about performance, like staging a play."

In all likelihood, Radiohead didn't really willfully attack the environment by driving flashy gas-guzzling cars when they were making Hail to the Thief, but the vibe and celebrity culture of the West Coast certainly had an effect on them. The music on Hail to the Thief is far less sterile and claustrophobic than the band's last two discs. Some songs are colored with electronic samples, but most abound with evocative guitar lines and real drums, and tracks like "There There" and "Go to Sleep" mark a return to the gloomy melodic pop dynamics of OK Computer.

>> "It was like eating too much chocolate or something..."

"It was like a beach vacation," Yorke said of Radiohead's time working on the album in L.A. "We did everything we weren't supposed to do, and we felt kind of sick afterwards. It was like eating too much chocolate or something. It didn't feel like the world was going to end, so we wanted to make the sort of sounds that get you up in the morning and [that] sort of have a positive energy to them. It was the most fun we've ever had in the studio."

As much as the California breezes brightened the bandmembers' moods, it didn't color Yorke's lyrics, which were written in the politically tense months after 9-11. On "The Gloaming" he sings, "Genie, let out of the bottle /It is now the witching hour/ Murderers, you're murderers/ We are not the same as you," and in "I Will" he croons, "I will lay me down in a bunker underground."

There's an amazing scene in the 1999 Radiohead documentary "Meeting People Is Easy" in which Yorke is on set for the "No Surprises" video and there's a close-up of his head submerged in a tank of water. He holds his breath until his lungs ache and then he holds it some more. When he feels like his chest cavity is about to burst, he pulls a cord. The water immediately flushes from the tank, and Yorke is left gasping, coughing and sputtering with an expression of complete terror on his face. Then the tank is refilled and he does another take. And another.

Even when he's not nearly drowning himself, it's no secret that Yorke is an intense, dedicated guy, someone who has sacrificed relationships and emotional stability to present his musical vision. Somewhere along the line, however, he started to forget why he formed the band in the first place. Songwriting came to be a chore. The more detached he became, the more robotic his studio vocals on Kid A and Amnesiac began to sound. Then, just when he was beginning to feel hopeless, he had a revelation. As the band toured for Amnesiac, Yorke immersed himself in his singing to escape from the pressure of stardom, and rediscovered the power of song.

"It became the reason I was doing things," he said, rubbing his eyes with his palms. "It was the thing that kept me sane. So now music is a spiritual thing for me again and it hadn't been for a long time. It had been this thing that I had to do. I used to watch Michael Stipe [of R.E.M.] when we toured with him years ago, and you could tell every night it was spiritual for him. Not spiritual like 'I'm communicating with God,' just spiritual in the sense that 'This is why I'm here.' Not to go to the supermarket. Not to sign your autograph. I'm here to sing these songs."

Before 2001, Yorke's entire life was overwhelmed by Radiohead. As much as he'd try to escape by taking vacations, reading, supporting political causes or socializing with friends, the specter of the band loomed over his head. Then everything changed. On February 6 of that year, his girlfriend Rachel gave birth to their first child, Noah, and suddenly Yorke didn't have time to be so self-involved. Today, the singer would probably rather talk about his son than himself, and he's bemused by the fact that he's gained happiness by becoming the very thing he used to hate.

"Oh, God, I couldn't stand new fathers who went on and on about their kids," Yorke said. "I would be so bored. I'd just tune out while they talked and go, 'Oh, yeah, oh, really?' But it was a good thing for me to become a father because I lightened up. You cease to be the center of the world and that's good. And being a father helped make me get back into music. My son definitely plays a major role in me doing this and I want him to know that someday."

Yorke said that several songs on Hail to the Thief make reference to children's stories, and the video for "There There," which takes place in the woods and ends with Yorke turning into a tree, was modeled after some of the spooky fairy tales Yorke has read to his kid. For now, Noah is too young to understand the significance of the video. All he knows is that his dad makes music. And like most 2-year-olds, he manipulates his parents like Tony Hawk controls a skateboard.

"Whenever I go and play the piano, he tells me to stop," Yorke said, cracking a smile, "and I do." He thinks for a moment. "Then again, that's probably not such a good thing."



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